Legislature(2005 - 2006)BUTROVICH 205

04/15/2005 01:30 PM Senate HEALTH, EDUCATION & SOCIAL SERVICES


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02:18:37 PM Start
02:18:37 PM SB150
02:36:29 PM Adjourn
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= SB 150 ALASKA CHILDREN'S TRUST FUND GRANTS
Moved CSSB 150(HES) Out of Committee
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
SENATE HEALTH, EDUCATION AND SOCIAL SERVICES STANDING COMMITTEE                                                               
                         April 15, 2005                                                                                         
                           2:18 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Fred Dyson, Chair                                                                                                       
Senator Gary Wilken, Vice Chair                                                                                                 
Senator Lyda Green                                                                                                              
Senator Kim Elton                                                                                                               
Senator Donny Olson                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                              
SENATE BILL NO. 150                                                                                                             
"An Act repealing the limits on grants awarded from the Alaska                                                                  
children's trust fund."                                                                                                         
     MOVED CSSB 150 (HES) OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: SB 150                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: ALASKA CHILDREN'S TRUST FUND GRANTS                                                                                
SPONSOR(s): HEALTH, EDUCATION & SOCIAL SERVICES                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
03/21/05       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
03/21/05       (S)       HES, FIN                                                                                               
04/06/05       (S)       HES AT 1:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
04/06/05       (S)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
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04/15/05       (S)       HES AT 1:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
JOEL GILBERTSON, Commissioner                                                                                                   
Department of Health & Social Services                                                                                          
PO Box 110601                                                                                                                   
Juneau, AK  99801-0601                                                                                                          
POSITION STATEMENT: Introduced SB 150                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MARGO MCCABE                                                                                                                    
Alaska Children's Trust Fund                                                                                                    
550 W. 8th St. Suite 304                                                                                                        
Anchorage, Alaska  99501                                                                                                        
POSITION STATEMENT: Introduced SB 150.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR FRED DYSON  called the Senate Health,  Education and Social                                                             
Services  Standing  Committee meeting  to  order  at 2:18:37  PM.                                                             
Present were Senators  Donny Olson, Kim Elton,  Gary Wilken, Lyda                                                               
Green and Chair Fred Dyson.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
           SB 150-ALASKA CHILDREN'S TRUST FUND GRANTS                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:18:37 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR DYSON announced SB 150 to be up for consideration.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GREEN moved to adopt a committee substitute (CS) for SB
150, Version \F, as the working document before the committee.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON objected for the purpose of discussion.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:19:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOEL GILBERSTON, commissioner, Department of Health and Social                                                                  
Services (DHSS) said:                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     The committee  substitute bill  before you  changes the                                                                    
     original  so that  the children's  trust grants  have a                                                                    
     four-year term.  One of the  reasons that  the trusties                                                                    
     have been  interested in  this is  that the  trust does                                                                    
     not generate a large amount of income.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Because of  ongoing commitments to existing  grants, we                                                                    
     have been able  to do no new grant making  and for just                                                                    
     about two  years we have  not issued  a new grant.   We                                                                    
     want to  move towards  a system where  there will  be a                                                                    
     natural  process  for  grantees   when  they  apply  to                                                                    
     develop  a  self-sufficiency  plan  in  their  original                                                                    
     application  for   how  they  plan  on   funding  their                                                                    
     programs  after Children's  Trust Fund  Dollars are  no                                                                    
     longer available.  We want  a system in which the board                                                                    
     makes  funding   determinations  based  on   data  from                                                                    
     performance  measures  and   phases  out  grants  after                                                                    
     funding them for four years.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:22:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GREEN asked whether it is  possible to create a system in                                                               
which the trust  can determine whether or not  an organization is                                                               
meeting its objectives.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER GILBERTSON  said it is  a goal of the  department to                                                               
have performance measures for all  of its grant projects. In some                                                               
cases  the  department  has been  moving  away  from  performance                                                               
grants  in favor  of  performance contracts  in  which it  awards                                                               
compensation to  contractors on the basis  of measurable outcomes                                                               
of their work.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Performance  measures  would  be  developed  through  the  Alaska                                                               
Children's  Trust  with support  from  the  Office of  Children's                                                               
Services  (OCS). The  trustees  would develop  the  plan and  the                                                               
Trust  would  receive  assistance  from  the  OCS  in  developing                                                               
performance measures.  The goals  would be incorporated  into the                                                               
Requests  For  Proposals (RFPs)  that  go  to the  grantees.  The                                                               
grantees would be required to  make quarterly reports on progress                                                               
towards the goals.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:24:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GREEN  noted  when  the  Senate  worked  on  the  Alaska                                                               
Children's  Fund;  it never  intended  the  grant projects  would                                                               
extend beyond four  years. She expressed concern  with the Fund's                                                               
history  of  issuing  multiple  grants  to  the  same  entity  in                                                               
different locations  throughout the state. She  asked whether the                                                               
language of the CS would allow that to happen.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  GILBERTSON  responded   by  requiring  grantees  to                                                               
submit  a  sustainability plan  during  the  RFP process  and  by                                                               
having  explicit  performance  measures   and  a  fair  selection                                                               
process guided by a desire  for measurable outcomes, the CS would                                                               
ensure the competition  that would allow better  results from the                                                               
grantees.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GREEN  wanted assurance  that no  one entity  becomes the                                                               
recipient of the preponderance of any one-year's grant.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  GILBERTSON said  it  is not  the  intention of  the                                                               
board that that should occur. The  board has a broad selection of                                                               
individual entities that receive grants.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:26:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARGOT  MCCABE,   Alaska  Children's  Trust  Fund,   agreed  with                                                               
Commissioner Gilbertson's comments.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON  asked the  amount the fund  distributed in  the last                                                               
budget year.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. MCCABE informed the  committee they distributed approximately                                                               
$270,000 in the previous year.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON remarked  the CS would eliminate  the current $50,000                                                               
cap  on grants.  He  asked  whether the  board  has considered  a                                                               
future practical working cap.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. MCCABE replied:                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     I  think that  we  will  and think  that  they will  be                                                                    
     established for each RFP depending  on what the need is                                                                    
     in that cycle.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON  asked whether the  list of recipients listed  in the                                                               
brochure  is exhaustive  and, if  the trust  uses any  particular                                                               
paradigms  or  philosophies  to  guide it  in  its  selection  of                                                               
grantees.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. MCCABE responded:                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     We evaluate each program on  a case-by-case basis where                                                                    
     we look  at whether it  really supports our  mission of                                                                    
     preventing  child abuse  and neglect.  The RFP  process                                                                    
     delineated  in the  committee substitute  will give  us                                                                    
     more data about the  communities in need, other program                                                                    
     offerings  in those  communities, the  type of  program                                                                    
     offered and  how effective it  has been in  other parts                                                                    
     of Alaska, which are the things that we consider.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:30:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON  asked how an  elementary school with  school funding                                                               
got on the Trust list.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MARGOT  said   the  school  is  a   transitional  preschool  that                                                               
initially started out as a mentoring program.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON asked whether it is  fair to infer that preschools or                                                               
elementary schools  are not going  to be major recipients  in the                                                               
future.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. MCCABE responded that is  a fair assumption unless the school                                                               
is  able to  demonstrate  the program  they  are implementing  is                                                               
aimed  at preventing  child  abuse and  neglect.  There are  many                                                               
programs in a position to carry out the mission of the Trust.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON remarked there does  not appear to be any faith-based                                                               
recipients on the  list and asked whether this  reflects a policy                                                               
on the part of the Trust.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MCCABE said  the Board  welcomes proposals  from faith-based                                                               
initiatives for consideration.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  GILBERTSON  added  there  are  no  prohibitions  on                                                               
providing funding to faith-based organizations.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GREEN moved CSSB 150(HES)  from committee with individual                                                               
recommendations   and   attached   fiscal   notes.   Hearing   no                                                               
objections, the motion carried.                                                                                                 
There being  no further  business to  come before  the committee,                                                               
Chair Dyson adjourned the meeting at 2:36:29 PM.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                

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